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Oakes and Lipton Ch. 7

Posted by: dbabb | February 21, 2008 | 3 Comments |



  

Oakes and Lipton Ch. 7 

The overriding theme of this chapter, on classroom management, is that children should be engaged in caring, respectful and democratic relationships.  I couldn’t agree more.  I do think that most teachers are by nature, caring people.  It only follows that if one is caring, one is also respectful.  The democratic part is where I think some teachers part ways with the thoughts of Oakes and Lipton.  As discussed in this chapter, school discipline at the turn of the century resembled the way those who worked in factories were managed.  These days, we have a hard time imagining such strict control.  When I first started teaching, in the late 80’s in Birmingham, corporal punishment was alive and well, but worse than that, intimidation and public humiliation abounded.  Students who misbehaved were sent down to the principal’s office for a spanking. (I was not a classroom teacher; so luckily, I had no part in this.)  I had a hard time dealing with witnessing teachers humiliate and intimidate students.  Had I not been so young and naïve, I hopefully would have tried to do something about this.  I’ve often thought about how discouraged those students who lived in poverty were before they even stepped foot into the school, and then to have the teachers beat them down even more…I hope and pray that this no longer goes on at the school where I taught.  Hopefully, those teachers have retired and some new teachers like Oakes and Lipton highlight in this chapter are now building those children up and helping them believe that they can do anything!  I love that Paley’s book, You Can’t Say You Can’t Play, was discussed in this chapter.  I read it and loved it!  The premise is, children are simply not allowed to turn a classmate away that wants to play with them.  Oakes and Lipton say that tolerating rejection is not a minor issue, and I agree!  One other point…I have noticed that over the years, since I’ve become a better teacher, I’ve had fewer discipline problems.  I do tend to agree that with effective teaching, classroom management becomes more of a non-issue.

  

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Diana, I also think that many teachers today are both caring and respectful, but there are many others who I refer to as “old school.” These old school teachers use out-dated strategies such as sarcasm and embarassment to control children instead of taking time to listen and really connect with them. (we have a few old schoolers in my building) I don’t know if teachers truly understand the impact they have on students. Not just academically but socially and emotionally as well. We have the power to speak unlimited possibility or presumed failure into their lives. Paddling, embarassing or humiliating a child does not send the message of, “I believe in you.” It only makes children feel worse.
I enjoyed reading the stories of first year teachers who found creative ways to value the voices of and connect with their students. I think that effective teaching and empowering students to help make classroom decisions will definitely impact classroom management.

As I read this chapter I couldn’t help but think about the book you and I are reading, Diana. Remember the teacher who used the Nazi-like hand signals to control his students? Kozol made the point that those extreme measures to try to control students are used in schools where the poor and less-privileged students attend. They are the students who need the caring models so desperately! I can’t imagine being treated that way.

Hi, If I can, I want to respond to both you and Sandy on your comments. I am sorry to see that Sandy thinks that the “old School” teachers are disrepectful to their students using sarcasm and embarassing their students. In my experience, and of course it’s what you see, experience, but I’ve seen any age teacher or any teacher with a few years or many years, do what Sandy is describing. Some of my favorite teachers are “old school” and do not disrespect their students. In fact very few of the teachers I’ve grown to admire, do so. I’ve been lucky to know older teachers who show me great examples of great teaching. I know we all agree that we as teachers should be respectful of our students, our fellow teachers, our admin. But I don’t think we should generalize and say it’s the “old school” teachers doing the dising.

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