http://dbabb.edublogs.org/2008/02/21/oakes-and-lipton-ch-7/ Just another Edublogs.org weblog Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:17:43 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 http://dbabb.edublogs.org/2008/02/21/oakes-and-lipton-ch-7/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Cindy Fri, 22 Feb 2008 23:03:16 +0000 http://dbabb.edublogs.org/2008/02/21/oakes-and-lipton-ch-7/#comment-13 Hi, If I can, I want to respond to both you and Sandy on your comments. I am sorry to see that Sandy thinks that the "old School" teachers are disrepectful to their students using sarcasm and embarassing their students. In my experience, and of course it's what you see, experience, but I've seen any age teacher or any teacher with a few years or many years, do what Sandy is describing. Some of my favorite teachers are "old school" and do not disrespect their students. In fact very few of the teachers I've grown to admire, do so. I've been lucky to know older teachers who show me great examples of great teaching. I know we all agree that we as teachers should be respectful of our students, our fellow teachers, our admin. But I don't think we should generalize and say it's the "old school" teachers doing the dising. Hi, If I can, I want to respond to both you and Sandy on your comments. I am sorry to see that Sandy thinks that the “old School” teachers are disrepectful to their students using sarcasm and embarassing their students. In my experience, and of course it’s what you see, experience, but I’ve seen any age teacher or any teacher with a few years or many years, do what Sandy is describing. Some of my favorite teachers are “old school” and do not disrespect their students. In fact very few of the teachers I’ve grown to admire, do so. I’ve been lucky to know older teachers who show me great examples of great teaching. I know we all agree that we as teachers should be respectful of our students, our fellow teachers, our admin. But I don’t think we should generalize and say it’s the “old school” teachers doing the dising.

]]> http://dbabb.edublogs.org/2008/02/21/oakes-and-lipton-ch-7/comment-page-1/#comment-12 ctyson1 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:47:33 +0000 http://dbabb.edublogs.org/2008/02/21/oakes-and-lipton-ch-7/#comment-12 As I read this chapter I couldn't help but think about the book you and I are reading, Diana. Remember the teacher who used the Nazi-like hand signals to control his students? Kozol made the point that those extreme measures to try to control students are used in schools where the poor and less-privileged students attend. They are the students who need the caring models so desperately! I can't imagine being treated that way. As I read this chapter I couldn’t help but think about the book you and I are reading, Diana. Remember the teacher who used the Nazi-like hand signals to control his students? Kozol made the point that those extreme measures to try to control students are used in schools where the poor and less-privileged students attend. They are the students who need the caring models so desperately! I can’t imagine being treated that way.

]]> http://dbabb.edublogs.org/2008/02/21/oakes-and-lipton-ch-7/comment-page-1/#comment-11 Sandy Thu, 21 Feb 2008 19:08:09 +0000 http://dbabb.edublogs.org/2008/02/21/oakes-and-lipton-ch-7/#comment-11 Diana, I also think that many teachers today are both caring and respectful, but there are many others who I refer to as "old school." These old school teachers use out-dated strategies such as sarcasm and embarassment to control children instead of taking time to listen and really connect with them. (we have a few old schoolers in my building) I don't know if teachers truly understand the impact they have on students. Not just academically but socially and emotionally as well. We have the power to speak unlimited possibility or presumed failure into their lives. Paddling, embarassing or humiliating a child does not send the message of, "I believe in you." It only makes children feel worse. I enjoyed reading the stories of first year teachers who found creative ways to value the voices of and connect with their students. I think that effective teaching and empowering students to help make classroom decisions will definitely impact classroom management. Diana, I also think that many teachers today are both caring and respectful, but there are many others who I refer to as “old school.” These old school teachers use out-dated strategies such as sarcasm and embarassment to control children instead of taking time to listen and really connect with them. (we have a few old schoolers in my building) I don’t know if teachers truly understand the impact they have on students. Not just academically but socially and emotionally as well. We have the power to speak unlimited possibility or presumed failure into their lives. Paddling, embarassing or humiliating a child does not send the message of, “I believe in you.” It only makes children feel worse.
I enjoyed reading the stories of first year teachers who found creative ways to value the voices of and connect with their students. I think that effective teaching and empowering students to help make classroom decisions will definitely impact classroom management.

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